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Janis I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 4643 Location: CUMBERNAULD
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:29 am Post subject: |
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thats right lindy but i took the decision to work on a four weekly,(monthly basis) moreso when my kids were young as i didn't want either kendal or haig , and now innes to be at risk from a dog who may have worms and after haveing a good old lick of their nether regions then go and lick my kiddies!
a bit like prevention rather than cure! _________________ Cockapoo's...a little of this, a little of that..........
the perfect combination!
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kirsty I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 2712 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:19 am Post subject: |
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While I hear what everyone is saying and fully appreciate everyones views and sound reasons where we have dogs integrated into human life.
I have no kids to worry about - and just try to keep the whole thing as natural as possible. Dogs in the wild are not wormed.
Bob needs to go back to the vets yet again and it will be more antibiotics and perhaps steriods - I just feel that the less chemical muck I put in them the better.
The only reason I front lined them was because the vet said it might help bobs skin and ears - this was flee tick control. But I was not happy using that |
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Gaelle I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1070 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Just a thought here, but have you considered getting Bob referred to a homoeopathic vet for treatment? It would be an alternative to antibiotics and or steroids and a good homoeopathic vet will work WITH your own vet, not against him which would be of benefit to Bob. |
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Suzanne H I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 1145 Location: N. Lanarkshire
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I can see the rationale for not putting medicine in if it's not required, but I don't really buy the dogs in the wild argument - their average lifespan is 8 years, and also, only the strong survive. We can keep domestic dogs (weak or strong) alive longer through prevention and treatment.
I view my dog as I view myself - if there is something available that will prevent something bad happening, then I will do it as it's probably far less problematic than a cure - by the time you notice it, some damage will have been done.
The one thing I did reconsider was the flea treatment though - am in a quandary because I can't stand the thought of fleas. |
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JennyMc High Post Member
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 270 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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I worm both of mine every 3-4 months. Bear gets his from vets as it's cheaper due to his size. Unbelievable I know I get Tala's from pet shop but I tend to change brands each time, a practice we used with horses to help with resistance issue. I wondered if others do this or just use same ones all the time? |
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kirsty I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 2712 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Gaelle wrote: |
Just a thought here, but have you considered getting Bob referred to a homoeopathic vet for treatment? It would be an alternative to antibiotics and or steroids and a good homoeopathic vet will work WITH your own vet, not against him which would be of benefit to Bob. |
Gaelle
This is something I am considering - I know there is a very good homeopathic vet in Bearsden.
My friend attends there but to be honest is has been a very long process and they still have not gotten to the bottom of the dogs skin problems - she has been attending regularly for over a year and a half now - the cost has been astronomical. |
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kirsty I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Suzanne H wrote: |
I can see the rationale for not putting medicine in if it's not required, but I don't really buy the dogs in the wild argument - their average lifespan is 8 years, and also, only the strong survive. We can keep domestic dogs (weak or strong) alive longer through prevention and treatment.
I view my dog as I view myself - if there is something available that will prevent something bad happening, then I will do it as it's probably far less problematic than a cure - by the time you notice it, some damage will have been done.
The one thing I did reconsider was the flea treatment though - am in a quandary because I can't stand the thought of fleas. |
I check both of my dogs poo every single day and they do not have worms. I never wormed my last shepherd who lived till the age of 13, she had one outbreak of tape worm in those 13 years, and this was picked up immediately because I do check the poo.
I don't think my dogs life expectancy is going to be affected adversely because I choose not to worm them.
With the exception of Bob's ongoing skin and ear problem, which were pre existing conditions when I homed him at 4 years old, my boys are the picuture of health with white clean teeth, shiny healthy coats and bounding with energy - I will stick the the most natural feeding and medical methods I can find. |
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Ashley I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 1791 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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JennyMc wrote: |
I get Tala's from pet shop but I tend to change brands each time, a practice we used with horses to help with resistance issue. I wondered if others do this or just use same ones all the time? |
That's really interesting Jenny. Can most definitely see some sense there.... Well this post reminded me that Holly is due to be wormed... I shall get some from the pet shop for her. Due to her size, it shouldn't cost a lot! _________________ Ashley with Holly & Murphy.
I hope to one day be as great as my dog thinks I am right now!! |
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Lindy I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 3209 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Janis wrote: |
thats right lindy but i took the decision to work on a four weekly,(monthly basis) moreso when my kids were young as i didn't want either kendal or haig , and now innes to be at risk from a dog who may have worms and after haveing a good old lick of their nether regions then go and lick my kiddies!
a bit like prevention rather than cure! |
makes sense Janis would be the same if I had kids in the house |
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Gaelle I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 03 Dec 2007 Posts: 1070 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Kirsty,
Unfortunately like allopathic treatments, if the condition is long standing sometimes the treatment can take a long time and sometimes, like with Rosie and all her ailments especially the arthritis, it it just controlled, but I'm not a vet so I can't obviously say for sure. As to the cost, check your insurance policy (if you have one) as a lot of them now cover homoeopathy.
I swear by homoeopathic treatment and although Rosie could not be cured, it certainly made her quality of life a lot better for which I will always be grateful.
Good luck whatever your decision.
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linsey I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 2289 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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i worm Leon every 3-4 months...
I like to keep on top of it because the last time I wormed him there were some worms, but previous to that nothing had shown up in his poo. So I prefer just to err on the side of caution.
While I'm very much of the mind that I don't like using any kind of chemical unless I have to (for both myself and my dog) I just think sometimes you have to pick your battles, you know?
But ultimately you have to make your own decisions and do what is right for your dog and yourself.
My vets has a 3 month worming policy, due to the health risks to humans associated with the worms. Ugh.
Maybe I could collect them and sell them as a weight loss option!!! Get your worms here girls! Two for a pound...
_________________ Dogs are the leaders of the planet.
If you saw two living creatures, one of them does a poo and the other carries it for him, who would YOU think was in charge?
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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linsey wrote: |
Maybe I could collect them and sell them as a weight loss option!!! Get your worms here girls! Two for a pound...
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Lorna I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 2187 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Linsey, _________________ Regards,
Lorna, Basil & Poppy
Great Danes are not substitute children. They are much more important than that! |
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Ashley I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 1791 Location: Cumbernauld
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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LOL @ Linsey!!! I bet you actually would make money!!! A worm dealer!!!
BOAK! _________________ Ashley with Holly & Murphy.
I hope to one day be as great as my dog thinks I am right now!! |
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Suzanne H I don't have a life ...I'm always here!
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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I wasn't saying that not worming your dogs will affect them - just that I don't think you can equate domestic and wild dogs.
I also try to stay as far from the poo as I can
I get what you're saying about au naturel - I just equate worming tablets with me taking antihistamine every day. It's probably not ideal, but it's better than dealing with the consequences. |
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