crate training again

kendal · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: crate training again

i think we are going to have to do some crate training again, as the girls are not taking to being locked up tonight. cant blame them as its a new crate in a different part of the house.
they are in there old one for tonight and i think tomorrow during the day we will put them in the new one for short bursts like when we first started them as puppy's.
i think its just too soon to have them in it all night, when its only been there a couple of hours. there not scared of going in it, just don't know what going on when the lights go out.

maybe tomorrow (i know they will get used to it, i think i just expected it to fast Embarassed

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marcella · Guest

Between you and your mum I'm sure you'll both get it just right with the crate training! And your girls trust you so they will be happy enough! Wink

Suzanne H · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:36 am Post subject:

Otto, give a choice, would be in bed with us, and getting him crate trained at night has been one step forward and two back...but I blame myself not him. Too soft.

Initially he'd bark when we first put him in, then he'd bark after an hour, then he barked until 4am., then he went through a phase of barking from 5 am.

I felt so guilty and was paranoid that the barking meant he was frightened/needing a pee. He was just barking for me to come and get him and in the end just had to be ignored so he learned what night-time was.

He seems to have settled down now - 10.30pm to 6.30/7am. He only barks now when he's genuinely needing a pee.

kendal · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject:

i just spent about 20 mins running about outside the house with the girls in there new crate so they can get used to hearing noise from outside as they can hear outside noise where they are now. and that is what was setting them off last night, when someone went bye at 11:30 with there dog.

long story short, they only seemed to bark when i chapped the door or rang the bell. so its a start, will see if they settle tonight.
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Lorna · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject:

Good luck, Kendal. Persevere.
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kendal · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:59 pm Post subject:

so far so good the girls have been in there new crate for the past half hour with the light out, Inca started to bark when i left her but a swift tap on the nose seems to have sorted that. will let you know how things went tomorrow.
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Nicola · Guest

kendal · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject:

OK i accept that and understand what you are saying.
but i didn't hit her, just a tap to say no to the barking.
and they slept all night Very Happy

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Nicola · Guest

Tap/hit/smack/skelp/slap - all the same to me, no matter what the force of touch. I really hope you don't feel the need to 'tap' her on the nose again.

kendal · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject:

i accept that our training methods are different.
i have seen no ill effects with my dogs and do not make a habit out of it.
there are far worse methods that have been used by humans.
(not looking to start an argument, i understand your strong feelings so let us rest it at that please)
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Nicola · Guest

No ill effects with them as yet, I hope for their sakes no ill effects ever surface.

I'm well aware worse things are done to animals by humans, that's no excuse and doesn't make it right, imo.

Janis · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject:

kendal · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject:

i like to think that my dogs are well balanced as the put up with a lot from my 4 year old brother who like all children feels the need to poke, prod, pull, squeeze and tug any available part of the dog. so i see Little harm in a corrective tap.
just out of curiosity what do you think of cease Milan when he uses a foot tap, i know it is different and on a different part of the body.
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Nicola · Guest

Janis,

There are other, successful ways to establish leadership over dogs, I thought you would have known that. I don't include hitting a dog, no matter what the force, as one of them. It can be a disaster waiting to happen, you just never know until one day when the dog gets fed up with being 'tapped on the nose' that it decides to strike back which leaves the dog in a very uncertain position - one I would never risk by hitting my dogs or 'tapping them on the nose'.

Janis · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:59 pm Post subject:

we are never going to agree but i have had dogs for over 40 years and i know my ways work! so i will leave it there!



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